Recording and questions for Aron Walsh, "The Ground Truth is Out There"

Speaker

Aron Walsh, Professor, Thomas Young Centre for Theory and Simulation of Materials, Imperial College London, UK

Date

Wednesday February 16th, 10am (USA/Pacific)

Abstract

Density functional theory (DFT) has become a powerful tool for modelling the structures and properties of materials. The first role of a DFT practitioner is to choose an exchange-correlation functional that is appropriate for the chemical system and properties of interest. While there are still issues for describing materials that can be classified as highly correlated, such as those containing partially occupied d or f bands, generally DFT can provide an adequate description for the majority of systems. Indeed, there are a growing number of structure-property databases, including the Materials Project, that conveniently collect large numbers of DFT calculations. Such databases are now being widely used for training statistical machine learning models to reproduce the structure-property correlations of known crystals and also to extrapolate to new chemistries. There is a danger however of forgetting that even if an exact functional was known, the static predictions of DFT calculations for perfect structures do not represent the ground truth. Real crystals are excited and imperfect: the atoms vibrate around their ideal lattice sites; they contain point and extended defects; high energy configurations are accessed by temperature and light. In the context of my own research on semiconducting materials for clean energy applications, I will outline some challenges and possible directions for more accurate materials property predictions.

Recording

A recording of this seminar is available at this link.

Questions

If you are unable to ask questions live, please feel welcome to ask any questions following the talk here and we will ask the speaker to check afterwards. Whether they will be able to answer questions or not depends on the speaker’s availability.

Questions answered live

Question Asker Name
Can one predict, based on atomic number alone, which elements have chemically active versus inactive lone pairs? Gabriel Man
There have been some very impressive advances in using ML to fit interatomic potentials or solve the many-body SE. These models, however, tend to be black-box, which – based on your talk today – isn’t always desired for an intuition for materials design. What are your perspectives / are you optimistic that simpler theories for materials design will be discovered, e.g., in the next decade? Robert Wexler
can we use “synthetic data” to fill the missing pieces in data ? Baha Khalil
Given a standard halide perovskite (e.g. MAPbBr3), what are the smallest and largest terms in the Hamiltonian? How large is the anharmonic term relative to the static crystal potential term? Gabriel Man
Aron, thank you very much for a very thought provoking talk. With regard to the group theoretical analysis of the octahedra distortions in perovskites, you mentioned that these distortions are of Jahn-Teller or crystal field splitting type. It is known that these types of distortions are not reliably reproduced at the LDA/GGA level of DFT that are usually applied. Yet some of the disorted structures are represented very well. Is there a common wisdom on when GGA can or cannot be applied for these systems? Jacob Gavartin
What’s your view on the machine learning’s future to provide more mechanistic/scientific details matching those from DFT, rather than prediction/engineering? lei zhang
Are you aware of methods looking into the electron exictation or electron-phonon coupling effect on the energy of materials at finite temperatures? Anonymous Attendee
Do you expect new unknown features (maybe a combination of known features or new ones) coming up as key parameters in predicting properties (as approximations to a reasonable range?) Ebie Sam

Additional questions asked

Question Asker Name
Molecular dynamics takes into account electron-phonon coupling naturally. How? Namrata Jaykhedkar
You showed a very nice example to parametrize the perovskite distortions along 4 dimension. Do you think it is possible to parametrize much more complex motions, for example oxygen migration similar way to train machine learning force fields? Gergely Juhasz
Hi… You just talked about compound semiconductors. What about ternary semiconducting compounds? Is it valid for them too? Oday Hammadi
You talked about synthesizability and the burden of proof for computational material scientists. From your experience, what evidence do you need to provide to persuade a experimentalist that a previous unknown material is synthesizable? Tian Xie
Is Inverse designing periodic crystals ambitious ? what are the main challenges there ? Nawaf A
Currently, crystal structure prediction methods are able to predict materials at zero temperature, e.g. evolutionary crystal structure predictio or even random search approach is routinely used for materials prediction. However, there are not that many works devoted to the predictions at finite temperatures. Could you give a bit more color if you tried to do work on that direction? Nikita Rybin
Do you see a value hierarchy in your list of stability criteria (convex hull, phonons, MD, etc.). If you had to pick 2 or 3 of these to be convinced something can be made, which ones would you prioritize? How much does it depend on the system of interest? Janosh Riebesell
Thank you for a very nice talk. Do you have any further hypothesis for very system-dependent SOC band gaps? Viet-Anh Ha
Can a post calculation correction methodology developed for addressing Van der Waals interaction will be as efficient as developing a Exchange- Co-relational functional specifically designed for incorporating Van der Waals interaction ? What is the best approach to follow for properly including Vander Waals interaction in DFT. K M Rajashekhar Vaibhav
Based on your experience, which would be the best functional to model a transition metal oxide? In what terms could piezoelectric effect be studied from DFT? Anonymous Attendee
Hi… You just talked about compound semiconductors. What about ternary semiconducting compounds? Is it valid for them too? Anonymous Attendee
You discussed the ‘burden of proof’ and in the Q&A talked about NLP of the literature… what can experimentalists/ publishers do to improve what/ how they report data (particularly data that they might not think significant)? Eric McClure

From the above list, I removed duplicate questions or questions that were not directly relevant to the talk.

Finally, for everyone who is joining this forum for the first time, welcome! Thanks again for everyone who chose to join us today and who asked questions.

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Do you see a value hierarchy in your list of stability criteria (convex hull, phonons, MD, etc.). If you had to pick 2 or 3 of these to be convinced something can be made, which ones would you prioritize? How much does it depend on the system of interest?

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Thanks Aron for the great talk. I have almost the same question as @janosh. From your experience, what evidence do you need to provide to persuade an experimentalist that a previous unknown material is synthesizable?

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What is the best model for strain? and Why the prediction of strain and extension is quite difficult?

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How do you balance writing new codes for new science and maintaining existing codes in your group?

Thank you, Aron, for the talk. It was the most insightful talk I’ve attended in a while. Could you please repeat your response to Jacob Gavartin’s interesting question? I was interrupted while you were answering the question live.

@gabrielman I’ve just uploaded this talk to YouTube, see here. Hope this helps!

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